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Delmastiff
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 Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:30 pm Post subject: MOT Woes |
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Amongst some other trivial things, the car failed on excessive corrosion to both wisbone mounting points. To say I am extremely annoyed would be putting it mildly.
Are the mounts part of the floor pan, or are they further forward than that?
As I can't weld, is there anyone local'ish that can do the necessary welding for me?
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LIBERTINE
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| Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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sorry to here that mate 
id say its this area
hope you dont mind madads |
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matt
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| Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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Thats a shitter, thought it was solid!
The mount point is part of the floor pan, as in that it is thicker at that point and the mount bolts up into captive nuts on the thicker part of the floor.
Perhaps a good clean up to see what condition they are in is the first thing to do, they might not need welding but might have surface corrosion?
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Delmastiff
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| Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| matt wrote: | Thats a shitter, thought it was solid!
The mount point is part of the floor pan, as in that it is thicker at that point and the mount bolts up into captive nuts on the thicker part of the floor.
Perhaps a good clean up to see what condition they are in is the first thing to do, they might not need welding but might have surface corrosion? |
Me too mate hence why I am so f**king annoyed! Chris did all the other work but obviously not this. Fortunately it is the only welding left to do.
So what's the worst case scenario, new floor pans?
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Ash
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The idea I have about your car is that it wont need anything more than the picture above. Its a problem area as water gets in by the bulk head then then sits in between the floor pan and where the mount is.
Tbh its probably a good thing that they failed it as alot of stress is put on those mounts. At least now you know it wont tare itself apart over the next 12 months giving you even more work to do next year. |
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SPYK
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| true what ash is sayin ? last mk1 gte i bought back in '98 was a red 'b' reg from ayr /prestwick the n/s wishbone was completely torn away from the floor ? |
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Tricky
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| Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Delmastiff wrote: | | matt wrote: | Thats a shitter, thought it was solid!
The mount point is part of the floor pan, as in that it is thicker at that point and the mount bolts up into captive nuts on the thicker part of the floor.
Perhaps a good clean up to see what condition they are in is the first thing to do, they might not need welding but might have surface corrosion? |
Me too mate hence why I am so f**king annoyed! Chris did all the other work but obviously not this. Fortunately it is the only welding left to do.
So what's the worst case scenario, new floor pans? |
The worst case scenario is that the wishbone mountings come away from the floor, you lose all your suspension geometry and it needs putting on a jig to realign (£200 minimum) so it's straight before it's welded back up, and you decide to throw the shell away and reshell it because it's cheaper. Hope yours isn't that bad.
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Delmastiff
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No they're not that bad Trev fortunately! Just need a bit of welding. The MOT place said they'd do it but I'd prefer not to have to pay garage rates at the moment having just paid out on the HG to be done
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madads
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I have just patched mine up as in the picture, done both sides, Shame your not up here I'd weld them up for you Lee.
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Delmastiff
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| Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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Yes Ads, shame I'm so far away
Although, hmm, what's the maximum penalty for driving a car without a valid MOT?
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LIBERTINE
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| Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Delmastiff wrote: | Yes Ads, shame I'm so far away
Although, hmm, what's the maximum penalty for driving a car without a valid MOT? |
if you pay petrol im only in portsmouth matey  |
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Eck
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| Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Delmastiff wrote: | Yes Ads, shame I'm so far away
Although, hmm, what's the maximum penalty for driving a car without a valid MOT? |
60 Quid fine, no points. |
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Sparko
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| Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:21 am Post subject: |
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worth it 
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Delmastiff
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| Eck wrote: | | Delmastiff wrote: | Yes Ads, shame I'm so far away
Although, hmm, what's the maximum penalty for driving a car without a valid MOT? |
60 Quid fine, no points. |
Really!! No brainer then 
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does this mean pv or no pv for lee?
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