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mr_long Astra Specialist
Joined: 07 May 2014 Posts: 109
Location: Co. Durham
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:40 am Post subject: C20XE engine in 1300 shell? |
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I've tried google but struggling to find whats required to fit a C20XE engine into a 1300 shell. Are the engine mounts all in the correct places or do the chassis legs need altering at all.
Does anyone have a link to aftermarket mounts of has everyone made them themselves? |
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Sparko Astra Messiah
Joined: 03 Aug 2006 Posts: 5438
Location: Essex
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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Ha ha i was just about to chuck a post up with the same title to confirm what else i needed. You need the mk2 mounts that come with the XE rather than the mk1 ones. Only need to chop/weld stuff if you are fitting the 6 speed f28.
Other than that has anyone ran an injection lump on a carb tank just using a swirl pot? or is it just best to stick an injection tank on? any bits we would need to buy that wouldnt normally be included in an xe engine package? _________________
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mr_long Astra Specialist
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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Nice one. Thats good to know that I'm not going to have to chop and weld the chassis.
Is the only difference between the tanks that the GTE tank is baffled as I just figured the carb tank wouldn't have a return. |
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Sparko Astra Messiah
Joined: 03 Aug 2006 Posts: 5438
Location: Essex
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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Yea carb tank doesnt have a return so you need an injection one. Mk2 ones fit though with mk2 straps i think _________________
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Keith115 Astra Newbie
Joined: 10 Feb 2015 Posts: 5
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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Been looking for info on this myself but doesn't seem to be much info about on what to use, or if needs chassis strengthening ect, done xe conversions on nova's and corsa's but just bought a let to put in my mk1 astra |
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DeadEye Astra Legend
Joined: 14 May 2007 Posts: 4546
Location: Oxfordshire
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Keith115 wrote: | Been looking for info on this myself but doesn't seem to be much info about on what to use, or if needs chassis strengthening ect, done xe conversions on nova's and corsa's but just bought a let to put in my mk1 astra |
Plenty of info on here about it.
You need to stitch up the engine or it will tear itself apart. _________________ "A fine example of how not to build a car..."
And this is why, my GTE restoration thread: http://www.mk1oc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16119 |
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Eck Astra Veteran
Joined: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 1421
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:55 am Post subject: |
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You just need big block mounts.
1.6 - 18 Mk1 Astra
MK2 16v (ENGINE & REAR GEARBOX MOUNTS)
MK3 as above
Main difference you will find is the mk1 gearbox mount that's on the N/S Chassis leg is different to other models (if you struggle to find one I have plenty in stock). _________________ throw away the chicken sh$t gun, you don't just want to pull the trigger, you want to put the knife in me. |
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Sparko Astra Messiah
Joined: 03 Aug 2006 Posts: 5438
Location: Essex
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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So can anyone think of anything else needed? May have planned a 2 week road trip around a battered old astra that needs an engine swap lol
Engine
gearbox
Exhaust
Ancillaries
radiatior
rad fan
water pipes
wiring
driveshafts
fuel tank
fuel lines
fuel pump
big block struts
engine mounts
Cheeeers!!! _________________
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WheelyBigCheese Astra Old Hand
Joined: 09 Feb 2008 Posts: 982
Location: Wirral
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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Sparko wrote: |
Other than that has anyone ran an injection lump on a carb tank just using a swirl pot? or is it just best to stick an injection tank on? any bits we would need to buy that wouldnt normally be included in an xe engine package? |
My belmont had a xe running from the carb tank from what I remember (been a few years off the road). I just used an extenal fuel pump with an ignition live (through a hidden kill switch) and an earthed the pump off then ran 2 lines tank/pump to the rail and plumbed it in. SCREW THE TANK BREATHERS, FLOW, RETURN, tyre smoke and big smiles |
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WheelyBigCheese Astra Old Hand
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Location: Wirral
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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Make sure you plate up the 1/4 sections to the bulkhead each side or you will end up with your wheel floating around the arch.
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Sparko Astra Messiah
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Location: Essex
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Does that not build up too much pressure in the rail though? _________________
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WheelyBigCheese Astra Old Hand
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:04 am Post subject: |
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Sparko wrote: | Does that not build up too much pressure in the rail though? |
I never noticed any problems with it, the rail has a regulator on it so once it reaches desired pressure it just sends it back down the return.
The fuel lines were probably under sized (from memory ID is 8mm on the feed to rail as standard, on the carb tank the pipes were a bit smaller) but it worked for the time it was on the road, even at 135mph |
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Sparko Astra Messiah
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Location: Essex
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 12:08 am Post subject: |
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So where did you plumb the return into?? _________________
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Jon_Kadett Astra Legend
Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 4087
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:50 am Post subject: |
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Doing it that way isn't any better, you still haven't got a swirl pot. Under cornering the pump could run dry causing the engine to cut out or misfire. (On a turbo engine it could melt the pistons)
Mk3 tank conversion? _________________ [Click here to pay ransom to view photos] |
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Jon_Kadett Astra Legend
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Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:55 am Post subject: |
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I've got some pics where they should be seem welded on the wishbone mounts and steering rack mounts. Chassis legs and strut tops isn't necessary unless you want to do it. _________________ [Click here to pay ransom to view photos] |
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